Friday, February 22, 2013

"If you want to keep matters undisclosed pay back what you owe me"


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От кого: Aline <alinkap@mail.ru>
Кому: Shalom From Hatikvah <hatikvah1@hotmail.com>
Дата: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:14:37 +0400
Тема: Re[4]: Docs

I want my money back and I am not playing your games anymore.

If the money is not paid there will be consequences.


09 декабря 2011, 20:00 от Shalom From Hatikvah <hatikvah1@hotmail.com>:
Let's follow the legal procedure, as that was your wish as well. 
The revocation and the shares are two different matters.
As said, the revocation will be adopted by the majority, if it may please you or not.  This will be done.

For the share of sales, further instructions will be sent by our lawyer within the shortest terms, expectedly early next week.

As you seem to change of mind practically every week, I hope that you understand that we have to settle this once and for good and the best way to achieve that is to let our lawyer handle this issue the proper way.  If it is your true intention to do so, this will be arranged within the following week or two.

Anything that you may anticipate against that, will only make it longer for you to get the payment as agreed in our sales of share agreement.



Best,
Alain


From: alinkap@mail.ru
To: hatikvah1@hotmail.com
Subject: Re[2]: Docs
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:41:40 +0400

since I did not get any money from you I am not resigning.

The sales of shares is not valid since you did not keep your side of the agreement.

If you want to keep matters undisclosed pay back what you owe me, Alain.


09 декабря 2011, 19:33 от Shalom From Hatikvah <hatikvah1@hotmail.com>:
Alina,

Not you, not myself should fear that anyone of us handle behind the back.  If there's a person who could have handle behind your back, that's me, and which I thus never did.  Everything was clear and you were not forced to anything.  I will suggest to keep confidential matters undisclosed.  That counts for me as well.

I have sent you the share holder meeting planned this 19th of December in Milan. The originals were sent through our lawyer by courier to your address.

It is not a must for you to be present at the meeting, as the revocation will be adopted by the majority.
You can also decide to be represented, but that isn't a must neither.

Whatever you decide, I will like to add that there will be no opportunity at all to discuss any personal issue.

Best Regards,
Alain




From: alinkap@mail.ru
To: hatikvah1@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Docs
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 18:52:50 +0400

OK Alain,

just to let you know -

if I wanted to discredit you with the lawyer I would have sent her for example the copy of the skype conversation about opening the company - where you are asking me to be the second person - I can send you if you do not remember it , but it was not my goal when I contacted her.

I told you I was contacting the lawyer - this is when I sent her the mail - then you said you would call me so I did not undertake any action, also in your mails you said to me - " you can contact the lawyer but she won`t tell you anything new" - I can send you copy of this mails of yours so you can look at what you youreself are writing, so I sent her email not to go behind your back - I told you I would contact her and was sure you did not object. It gives me more confidence to contact her directly and I think it is my right since you do not represent me as the situation changed from when we opened the company when we were together.

I am in a place with no internet access I will be back on Dec 9 - to let you know.

Please have her send anything she needs to send to me directly. I accept the document only from her.


Alina.



02 декабря 2011, 19:04 от Shalom From Hatikvah <hatikvah1@hotmail.com>:
Alina,

The lawyer is preparing the documents.
I have asked her to proceed as quick as possible with this.
I expect to be able to send it to you shortly after the weekend.

I wanted to keep you informed.

Best,
Alain

LA VRAIE HISTOIRE - THE TRUE STORY


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Subject:AH
Date:Fri, 27 May 2011 06:40:31 +0000
From:Shalom From Hatikvah <hatikvah1@hotmail.com>
To:<alinkap@mail.ru>



Voila, below find his integral reply.  You can translate it by google if you don't understand some words.
My mail to him described clearly my doubts wether the company will ever start.
In the mail, he seems to be willing to show me that he is telling the truth
I will see what I reply today or tomorrow... as I do want action too.


The points that are in HIS advantage are:

1) Although I know that he could have done so many things behind my back, all the contracts were signed by myself.  You know, it was so easy for him to frame them, but he didn't.
2) They invest money and pay high lawyers fee.  People that only talking, aren't usually investing anything!!  But they do...
3) It's a clever business, not just a silly import-export set up.  So perhaps there is still a chance that the plans unfold the way expected


The points in HIS disadvantage:
1) That although we were ready since november or february, that apparently he is still looking for the right people to work on the field.  That had to be done months ago.  How could he ever told me that he was ready if he hadn't the right engineer on the field?



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detrompe toi ....
et ne rentre pas dans un cercle parano
notre societe n au AUCUNE activite
si ce n est que de payer des frais d avocats tres eleves 
on est rentrer dans un domaine ou on est les premiers
personne n y travaille
donc on ne peut se baser sur l experience, ni sur les erreurs de quelqu un d autr
on n a personne a qui demander ou se renseigner comment faire
on doit tout decouvrir par nous meme, tout faire par nous meme
on a fait pleins d erreurs qui nous ont couter bcp d agent et bcp de temps
mais comme on a reussi a franchir des etapes presque impossible a realiser, on continue
l acces au GME (qui est necessaire pour nous) et que nous avons obtenu , est aujourd hui , pour les nouvelles societes qui arrivent, encore plus dificile et plus long
c est pour ca que j avance prudamment, car si je brule ah je ne recommencerais pas avec une autre
si j arrive a verouiller notre histoire comme il faut on est tranquille pour tres tres tres longtemps
mais ici, si qqn veut nous suivre, on a au moins 1 an d avance .....
c est un peu comme si on a reussi a rentrer dans le grand chateau, on est dedans, il faut juste trouver la bonne orientation
on a aujourd hui TOUS les elements pour commencer, toute la structure et logistique est creer.
Mais maintenant, tous ces contrats qu on a fait, je dois les INTERCONNECTER, pour que tout fonctionne ensemble, et la je suis un peu perdu
Pour le moment on essaye de trouver une personne locale, qui connait le metier et qui va pouvoir operer notre structure.
j ai 2 candidats potentiels,
l idee c est que des que un de ces candidats est ok, tu partes a milan pour etablir le bureau.
voila, c est toute la VRAIE hstoire ....


translation

not deceived you ....
and do not return into a paranoid circle
in our society there is no activity
except for paying very high  lawyers fee

we go into an area where we are the first
nobody works there
so we can not rely on experience or on errors of someone else
there is no one to ask

we must discover by us all even, we do everything even
we made a lot of errors with the agent and time which cut us
but we managed to overcome the steps almost impossible to achieve, and we continue

the access to the GME (which is necessary for us) and we got is today, for new companies coming, it is more and a longer process

that is why we advance carefully, because if I burn ah I would not do with someone else

if I happen to manage our story as we should be very very very quite (plenty of money) for a long time

but here, if somebody wants to follow us, we have at least 1 year ahead .....

c is a bit like if you have managed to get into the big castle, we are inside, you just need to find the right direction

today was ALL the elements to begin with, the whole structure and logistics create.

But now, all these contracts that we have done, I have to INTERCONNECTING so that everything works together, and I'm a little lost

For the moment we try to find someone local who knows the profession and will be able to operate our structure.

I have two potential candidates

 the idea is that one of these candidates that is ok, you go to milan for establishing the office.

voila, this is the REAL hstoire ....

TOUCHING YOU STILL BEHIND ME. DO YOU STILL TRUST ME?


[30.01.2010 14:52:56] Alain Horoit: ok
[30.01.2010 14:52:58] Alain Horoit: here
[30.01.2010 14:53:07] Alain Horoit: but talk when my roommate leaves the house
[30.01.2010 14:53:12] Aline: OK
[30.01.2010 14:53:19] Aline: did you talk to her?
[30.01.2010 14:53:43] Alain Horoit: more or less yes
[30.01.2010 14:53:49] Alain Horoit: will talk to her tomorrow
[30.01.2010 14:54:34] Alain Horoit: she knows that i am in a financial dip, but knows too my possible deals with Laurent Perrier and sponsors
[30.01.2010 14:55:00] Alain Horoit: yesteday, the vice president of JDC, replied to me and found EREV interesting.
[30.01.2010 14:55:07] Alain Horoit: he asked for more information
[30.01.2010 14:55:13] Aline: it was really a great event
[30.01.2010 14:55:34] Aline: you have talent
[30.01.2010 14:55:43] Alain Horoit: don't tell anything to Zevi. Perhaps they are being sponsored by JDC as well and he wouldn't want me to be as well...
[30.01.2010 14:55:50] Aline: no no
[30.01.2010 14:56:00] Aline: he just told me
[30.01.2010 14:56:05] Aline: that he would call you
[30.01.2010 14:56:14] Alain Horoit: jDC is the biggest jewish sponsor organization
[30.01.2010 14:56:31] Alain Horoit: zevi gets from some organization 500.000€ sponsoring
[30.01.2010 14:56:39] Alain Horoit: i wish i could get that...
[30.01.2010 14:56:46] Aline: Zevi is religious
[30.01.2010 14:56:52] Aline: Hashem is helping him
[30.01.2010 14:56:58] Aline: if you had kids
[30.01.2010 14:57:08] Aline: He would provide for you, too
[30.01.2010 14:57:21] Alain Horoit: well, he never let me have kids so far...
[30.01.2010 14:57:24] Alain Horoit: He...
[30.01.2010 14:57:41] Aline: maybe it was His mistake
[30.01.2010 14:59:05] Aline: but you have to regain your self confidence
[30.01.2010 14:59:10] Alain Horoit: i found a good phrase
[30.01.2010 14:59:17] Aline: yes?
[30.01.2010 15:00:44] Alain Horoit: A good person don't change. Everything around you does.
[30.01.2010 15:00:55] Aline: by the way what you had told me was wrong - that I like hard times.
[30.01.2010 15:01:12] Aline: when I met you - you were "covered with chocolate" as they say in russian
[30.01.2010 15:01:45] Aline: you had that car and you took me out - just refreshing your memory
[30.01.2010 15:03:12] Alain Horoit: i wonder why Hashem is giving me all opportunities to achieve things, but let me always in troubles. One hour before the event, it could have cancelled. I succeeded and got giant media coverage which I needed to show other people like JDC
[30.01.2010 15:03:59] Alain Horoit: now i don't do anything without sponsoring or investments by others first. Even the Hotel is now willing to give me everything for free
[30.01.2010 15:04:56] Alain Horoit: but this week i'm in big shit
[30.01.2010 15:05:06] Alain Horoit: also marco stops and block everything
[30.01.2010 15:05:23] Aline: who is this Marco, you worked together before?
[30.01.2010 15:05:26] Aline: what does he do?
[30.01.2010 15:05:44] Alain Horoit: he was responsible for the company as i couldn't have it on my name
[30.01.2010 15:05:59] Aline: which one, start stop records?
[30.01.2010 15:06:00] Alain Horoit: the company is mine but he is gesheftfuhrer
[30.01.2010 15:06:12] Alain Horoit: no the new one deals entertainment
[30.01.2010 15:06:17] Aline: Geschaeftsfuehrer
[30.01.2010 15:06:32] Aline: so why does he block?
[30.01.2010 15:06:35] Aline: to spite you?
[30.01.2010 15:07:46] Alain Horoit: he wants out of it and wants to hold every money that gets in to pay anything that needs to be paid. I told him that if he blocks every money, i wouldn't do anything anymore and he'll get in more troubles cause i know to negotiate with people
[30.01.2010 15:08:12] Aline: right
[30.01.2010 15:08:19] Aline: what is his profession?
[30.01.2010 15:08:25] Aline: does he do anything else?
[30.01.2010 15:08:42] Alain Horoit: he has a car wash and a newspaper shop, but both aren't working well now
[30.01.2010 15:08:48] Aline: I see
[30.01.2010 15:09:22] Aline: it should be in his interest to make it work
[30.01.2010 15:09:29] Aline: if he does not understand it...
[30.01.2010 15:09:50] Aline: did he tell you how much he took that night?
[30.01.2010 15:10:20] Alain Horoit: the problem, this week the latest i have to pay back some people that are friendly when you need them, but less friendly when you don't pay on time
[30.01.2010 15:10:52] Aline: did you try talking to Yves?
[30.01.2010 15:11:10] Aline: how much do you owe?
[30.01.2010 15:11:17] Aline: 20 000?
[30.01.2010 15:11:46] Alain Horoit: no, yves my brolter won't do anything. If he could and wanted, he would have already called me cause he heard it from my parents how serious my situation is
[30.01.2010 15:12:05] Aline: he is waiting for you to call
[30.01.2010 15:12:17] Aline: he wants you to be the one asking
[30.01.2010 15:13:01] Alain Horoit: i need one sponsoring or closer, one deal with Laurent Perrier and everything could be fine again. My unlucky business adventure last already now more than 9 months which is not that long, but now i'm facing dangerous people
[30.01.2010 15:13:52] Alain Horoit: he is not waiting for my call... if i'm calling i am weak and takes it the easy way. if he is really willing to help, he would have called but he doesn't or can't obviously
[30.01.2010 15:14:09] Alain Horoit: last time i called... he didn't do anything either
[30.01.2010 15:14:22] Aline: last time was along time ago
[30.01.2010 15:14:47] Aline: did your parents talk to him?
[30.01.2010 15:15:05] Alain Horoit: my brother is not an option now. Perhaps later one day, but not now. I don't even know if he has money or that his wife controls everything
[30.01.2010 15:15:49] Aline: what are we going to do...
[30.01.2010 15:16:08] Aline: do they know where your parents live?
[30.01.2010 15:16:54] Alain Horoit: they know where my brother lives and they could trace also where my parents live
[30.01.2010 15:18:00] Alain Horoit: i can flee, but they will get then my family, and that's not an amount where it's worth to flee or to destroy everything i builded up, especially now that i proved to be able to organize important events and that LP is about to give the money
[30.01.2010 15:18:51] Aline: It is very scary
[30.01.2010 15:19:00] Aline: does Marco know about it?
[30.01.2010 15:19:10] Aline: He let you down obviously
[30.01.2010 15:19:32] Alain Horoit: yes, he's not family after all
[30.01.2010 15:19:38] Alain Horoit: and his mother died yesterday
[30.01.2010 15:19:56] Aline: I see
[30.01.2010 15:20:21] Aline: but still he just stole from you
[30.01.2010 15:20:44] Alain Horoit: i have nothing to give in guarantee or any belonging which is mine to have a lent
[30.01.2010 15:21:27] Aline: and those people, who are they?
[30.01.2010 15:21:28] Aline: mafia?
[30.01.2010 15:21:37] Alain Horoit: no mafia
[30.01.2010 15:21:40] Aline: off
[30.01.2010 15:21:42] Alain Horoit: i don't deal with mafia
[30.01.2010 15:21:56] Aline: at leastb some good news
[30.01.2010 15:22:01] Alain Horoit: but people that send people to get their money back
[30.01.2010 15:23:02] Alain Horoit: ok alina, i will try to rest a bit. i'm tired of thinking how i will be able to settle things next week. I have not much options anymore
[30.01.2010 15:23:26] Aline: Alain, I wish I could help
[30.01.2010 15:23:50] Aline: even if I could sell it would take too long
[30.01.2010 15:24:15] Aline: I am getting a few months rent now but it is not a sum you need
[30.01.2010 15:24:43] Aline: I can only pray God helps you and us
[30.01.2010 15:25:48] Aline: I can give you $ 1200 next week
[30.01.2010 15:25:52] Aline: this is all
[30.01.2010 15:26:48] Alain Horoit: touching you still behind me
[30.01.2010 15:27:06] Aline: you find me crazy I know
[30.01.2010 15:27:20] Aline: crazy to love you and ask nothing in return
[30.01.2010 15:27:46] Alain Horoit: in these times, i only learn what life is about
[30.01.2010 15:28:08] Alain Horoit: as i said, everything surrounding can change, but not the persons that you have around you
[30.01.2010 15:28:17] Aline: if your partner and your family is not behind you
[30.01.2010 15:28:21] Aline: life is not worth living
[30.01.2010 15:28:25] Aline: worth
[30.01.2010 15:28:47] Aline: and I will love you always, no matter in what times
[30.01.2010 15:29:04] Alain Horoit: unfortunately my parent haven't much. They lost too much over the past year with a process that they lost
[30.01.2010 15:29:14] Aline: what process?
[30.01.2010 15:29:25] Aline: court?
[30.01.2010 15:29:27] Aline: court
[30.01.2010 15:31:28] Alain Horoit: the heritage of my grandma. It belonged to my mum, but her semi-brother and sisters attacked her during 13 years. We thought that they wouldn't make a chance as this is really a family issie where the state wouldn't really care... but with bad luckk, we lost it (due to a lawyer that didn't care less) and my parents had to pay it back with a huge interest of 13 years!! It was almost 3 x the original capital...
[30.01.2010 15:32:04] Aline: oh God
[30.01.2010 15:32:43] Aline: a jiddishe mazl
[30.01.2010 15:32:58] Alain Horoit: i advised my mother not to pay it and let them proceed further! And i said that if she had to go to jail for 2 months, so be it. But my dear brother in Spain said it wasn't worth to take the chance.
[30.01.2010 15:33:16] Alain Horoit: I would have taken that chance and not paying
[30.01.2010 15:33:29] Alain Horoit: my mum sold her appartment for this
[30.01.2010 15:33:49] Aline: she would not have gone to jail
[30.01.2010 15:33:59] Alain Horoit: otherwise she could have easily put her appartment in garantie and get a loan from the bank
[30.01.2010 15:34:01] Aline: it is not a criminal trial
[30.01.2010 15:34:12] Alain Horoit: correct, it wasn't criminal
[30.01.2010 15:34:22] Alain Horoit: but they listened to my brother
[30.01.2010 15:34:47] Alain Horoit: they thought that i just didn't care. but the other party, believe me, they laughed at us when we paid!
[30.01.2010 15:35:14] Aline: so your grandma was married twice and your mother is from her first marriage?
[30.01.2010 15:36:29] Alain Horoit: no my mother is from her last husband and all the money were also made with that last husband, that's why my mother was morally in right to say that it was her money, as no one from the other family even cared about my grandma, except for the heritage
[30.01.2010 15:37:24] Alain Horoit: you know that i learned that money is nothing. G-D gave and took it back and He will give me back again, at the time that He'll judge that i will be totally ready for it
[30.01.2010 15:37:50] Aline: money is just means for other things
[30.01.2010 15:37:58] Alain Horoit: but this week i will face some the hardest time of my life if He doesn't give me...
[30.01.2010 15:38:36] Aline: I can only pray
[30.01.2010 15:39:14] Aline: I am asking ha Kadosh Baruh Hu to help you
[30.01.2010 15:39:52] Aline: the times are hard now for many people
[30.01.2010 15:40:20] Aline: maybe He is showing which things are important
[30.01.2010 15:40:27] Aline: but right now I am powerless
[30.01.2010 15:40:51] Aline: I am paying off debts that I made and I barely have enough for food
[30.01.2010 15:41:00] Alain Horoit: i know
[30.01.2010 15:41:08] Alain Horoit: i am thankfull for this
[30.01.2010 15:41:09] Aline: and selling the apartment could last long
[30.01.2010 15:41:25] Alain Horoit: who's talking about selling!!!
[30.01.2010 15:41:26] Alain Horoit: ?
[30.01.2010 15:41:38] Aline: I would do that for my husband
[30.01.2010 15:41:45] Alain Horoit: for 20.000 no need to sell an apprtment
[30.01.2010 15:42:19] Aline: I don;t even know exactly how much it is worth
[30.01.2010 15:42:31] Aline: it was $ 400 000 before the crisis
[30.01.2010 15:42:41] Aline: now it is probbaly $ 100 000
[30.01.2010 15:42:45] Aline: no idea
[30.01.2010 15:43:02] Alain Horoit: what appartment are u talking about?
[30.01.2010 15:43:07] Aline: mine
[30.01.2010 15:43:16] Aline: not in germany
[30.01.2010 15:43:17] Alain Horoit: in germany?
[30.01.2010 15:43:23] Aline: no, nothing in Germany
[30.01.2010 15:43:47] Aline: in Germany my mother and sister are living from state aid
[30.01.2010 15:44:00] Aline: we can have nothing in Germany and EU
[30.01.2010 15:44:23] Aline: my mother is getting from the state for her stay at the bejt avot
[30.01.2010 15:44:30] Aline: around 3000
[30.01.2010 15:44:39] Aline: they would make me sell everything and pay it
[30.01.2010 15:44:50] Alain Horoit: oh ok
[30.01.2010 15:45:07] Aline: my sister is registered as a single mother
[30.01.2010 15:45:26] Aline: because her partner does not want to be responsible for his son
[30.01.2010 15:45:34] Aline: but it is another story
[30.01.2010 15:45:52] Aline: and my father never helped me or my sister - only his new family
[30.01.2010 15:46:06] Aline: not that he is a Rockefeller either
[30.01.2010 15:46:12] Alain Horoit: i know
[30.01.2010 15:47:25] Aline: wherever you go, I 'll go with you
[30.01.2010 15:47:35] Aline: hope it won't be Mongolia
[30.01.2010 15:47:42] Aline: we have our heads
[30.01.2010 15:47:47] Aline: we have our hands
[30.01.2010 15:48:04] Alain Horoit: at the moment i have to think of settling a few things not to harm my family. i can't leave
[30.01.2010 15:48:04] Aline: we have our immoirtal souls
[30.01.2010 15:48:25] Alain Horoit: good that i'm not in diamonds
[30.01.2010 15:48:32] Aline: why?
[30.01.2010 15:48:44] Aline: in chocolate would be better
[30.01.2010 15:48:44] Alain Horoit: there, if you lose money, it's in the hundred thousands
[30.01.2010 15:49:14] Aline: I believe in you
[30.01.2010 15:49:16] Alain Horoit: if they win, alos in hundred thousands...
[30.01.2010 15:49:20] Aline: yes
[30.01.2010 15:49:50] Aline: so for now we are not driving a Bentley
[30.01.2010 15:50:04] Alain Horoit: you know i'm thinking every possible option, but can't find
[30.01.2010 15:50:12] Aline: I know
[30.01.2010 15:50:25] Aline: I am wringing my hands I can't help
[30.01.2010 15:51:09] Aline: I wish I could at least do something for you
[30.01.2010 15:52:14] Aline: at least don't ask me to leave you in bad times
[30.01.2010 15:52:15] Alain Horoit: do u still trust me?
[30.01.2010 15:52:28] Aline: I will stand by you until my last breath
[30.01.2010 15:53:15] Aline: but hey - if you don't pay ME back - it is even worse
[30.01.2010 15:53:26] Aline: I would expect you as a decent man to marry
[30.01.2010 15:53:37] Alain Horoit: what if we go get a loan there (without naming it here)? they shouldn't make a huge problem for 5000 or 10.000 or whatever?
[30.01.2010 15:53:43] Aline: and it should scare you more than mafia
[30.01.2010 15:54:13] Aline: you cannot write it?
[30.01.2010 15:54:31] Aline: I will do whatever I can for you
[30.01.2010 15:54:38] Aline: if I am not dying

[30.01.2010 15:55:00] Alain Horoit: i cherish your words
[30.01.2010 15:55:08] Aline: I have the appointment on feb 8th
[30.01.2010 15:55:09] Alain Horoit: good to know i'm not alone
[30.01.2010 15:55:15] Aline: no baby you are not alone
[30.01.2010 15:55:28] Alain Horoit: what appointment?
[30.01.2010 15:55:35] Aline: with the Uni Klinik
[30.01.2010 15:55:43] Aline: where they should try to find out
[30.01.2010 15:55:57] Aline: what is the shit that is running
[30.01.2010 15:56:23] Aline: I am not thinking of it right now
[30.01.2010 15:56:44] Aline: we are there for each other
[30.01.2010 15:56:48] Aline: as u said
[30.01.2010 15:56:53] Aline: 2 brave hearts
[30.01.2010 15:57:22] Aline: i know I am stupid - but I am very old fashioned
[30.01.2010 15:57:26] Aline: as it seems
[30.01.2010 15:58:29] Aline: but if I do this - I have one condition
[30.01.2010 15:59:01] Alain Horoit: no conditions alina
[30.01.2010 15:59:15] Aline: OK, no conditions
[30.01.2010 15:59:52] Alain Horoit: the best way is the way it should happen, no conditions
[30.01.2010 16:00:07] Aline: you don't know what I was going to say
[30.01.2010 16:00:18] Aline: but it does not matter
[30.01.2010 16:02:37] Alain Horoit: if you have something on your name, then you can have a loan, even if we have to go there. My purpose now is to get sponsored and wait till the money comes, and am ready now to find a job to wait untill these moments come. So i could always pay back. I feel an immense relief and certainty that the work I did and what i achieved will turn out to be beneficiary as firms trust my abilities.
[30.01.2010 16:03:07] Alain Horoit: i am not investing anymore
[30.01.2010 16:03:25] Alain Horoit: think of it
[30.01.2010 16:03:31] Alain Horoit: don't let me know now
[30.01.2010 16:03:36] Aline: OK

PAYBACK CAN START IMMEDIATELY

-------- Original Message -------- 
Subject:RE: company
Date:Wed, 18 May 2011 07:34:08 +0000
From:Shalom From Hatikvah <hatikvah1@hotmail.com>
To:<alinkap@mail.ru>


hi alina,
the procedure to take you out is just a piece of paper
it is not planned that anyone replaces you.
but as long as the company didn't start, it's better that the company remains a "srl" which is like a Gmbh, and not a one man's company.  A one man's company will not be taken seriously by some other clients or company.  That is why that once we start, i can take you out and pay you back.  And if you decide to leave before, yes, then i will have to find someone else or eventually they will to remain a srl.
i never lied about this.  i am who's taking the risks and the blame as i am managing director and signing the contracts. you are a shareholder who can't be blamed of wrong doings.  but so far nothing started yet, so everything is still clean.
once that it starts, payback can start immediately.  that was the plan since the beginning.

VICTIM OF HATIKVAH APPEAL FOR DONATIONS TESTIFYING


Sophie Kessous-Zimbris 9:48am Jan 25


l'année dernière lors de l'assassinat de la famille FOGEL ce monsieur a lancé un appel aux dons sur facebook, mon époux et moi même avons fait deux virements, un par paypal et un par C.B. quand j'ai appris que s'était un escroc j'ai pris contact avec lui pour lui demander la preuve qu'il adressait bien les dons àl la famille FOGEL, il n'a jamais répondu à mes diverses demandes ! c'est un affreux personnage qui profite du malheur des gens !


 last year after the murder of the family FOGEL this gentleman has launched an appeal for donations on facebook, my husband and I have made ​​two transfers, one by paypal and by credit card when I learned that was a crook I made contact with him to ask for proof that he sent many gifts to FOGEL family, he never responded to my various requests! this is a terrible character who enjoys the misfortune of people!












BEWARE THE FRAUD!


Thursday, February 21, 2013

"YOU CAN EXPECT HELP" - WHICH NEVER CAME

HELP - MEANS TO RETURN HIS DEBT TO ME
-------- Original Message -------- 
Subject:RE: AH
Date:Tue, 24 May 2011 10:11:28 +0000
From:Shalom From Hatikvah <hatikvah1@hotmail.com>
To:<alinkap@web.de>


After a year now, i don't think that anything will have such emergency.
To say the truth, I will send him an email today or tomorrow (I'll give some thoughts about it by a good walk) and tell him that if the company doesn't start by end this month or at least the TEST doesn't start by the first week next month, that it is better to stop or that he convince me otherwise.

He replied every question I had and presented me with every document, but obviously it is not enough.  Every of his time expectation failed and now after the last contract where he got all his codes to participate at the auctions, if they don't start it means that the company will never start.
I am also fed up because this hope that it will start one day refrains me of anticipating my other opportunities.  Once that I know that I don't have to hope on the company anymore, I give full power to Mr Never Give Up and shows all around.  But as I always expect the company to start, I am taking more time in taking things easily and time to prepare myself.  In fact, without that company I would have launched it much earlier.

So that is what I'll do.
Yes, before June 11 or 12th you can expect help.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRUST THOUGH IT WASN'T EASY



-------- Original Message --------
Subject:RE: a
Date:Tue, 24 May 2011 14:38:48 +0000
From:Shalom From Hatikvah <hatikvah1@hotmail.com>
To:<alinkap@mail.ru>


sometimes I should give some wisdom to some rabbis.

People call someone a crook once that this person doesn't pay them.  Others don't call that same person a crook if he does pay them!  So it's a matter of personal interest because to me, calling someone a crook must be someone that had no intentions to pay anyone!  The same way with accusing someone of a robber.  There is a difference between robbing and ... a series of events and its consequences.

A rabbi who doesn't see it that way has NO knowledge as he doesn't know to give the right answer to your question and has NO wisdom as he cannot ask you the right question to obtain the most correct answer.

Some rabbis seem unable to exemplify all what they have studied.  

I thank you for your trust although I admit, it wasn't easy.  

BEWARE THE FRAUD!

THE RECOMMENDATION FOR MR NEVER GIVE BACK


 THIS IS WHAT HIS FORMER FRIEND IS SAYING ABOUT HIM:


Alain is mental sick. I borrowed alain money not a different
way and if i dont get my money back it is normal that i block everything. I helped him with all my heart and the only thing i got was problems. I  want to forget this man. I dont care what happen with him. Be carefull he is smart in manupulating people. 
Like i told you, he is a mental sick person. He cares for nobody. I cant steal from him if he have no money. He stole from me, money, my pride and respect for him.His family is totally different.

I hope you have something on paper and didn't trust him like I trusted him. 

BEWARE THE FRAUD!

a QUOTE TO PONDER ON


“A liar is always lavish of oaths.”

― Pierre Corneille

LYING I AM A SHAREHOLDER

-------- Original Message -------- 
Subject:RE: Re[8]: AH
Date:Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:11:23 +0000
From:Shalom From Hatikvah <hatikvah1@hotmail.com>
To:<alinkap@mail.ru>


calling you isn't the issue.  I will call you of course, but I know it isn't the issue here.

the docs are formal.  You can also chose not to sign them, then it will be sent to you as an acknowledgment to you.
As minor shareholder, it doesn't truly matter.  It's just to apply the formal regulations of the company which is why the Lawyer is paid to do so. 
It's unfortunate that we have resisted for so long, and now the last weeks to act suspiciously.  But again, I know that you weight more on me calling you than all these documents.  What do you care about these documents, huh?  I don't even care about them.
But you know me.  I call, but not under circumstances like "If I don't call... You won't..."
In that case I feel like becoming an hypocrite should I call.  And I'm not.  So if you don't want to sign till I call, fine for me.  
But then I guess it will take a time before I call again... :-)

After the last year, I don't let myself troubled by minor issues.  If this cause some extra week delay, so be it.

Nothing changed in my promises to you.  As soon as it starts, I take you out so that nothing can happen to you.
Today you seem reluctant although it's for you I do that.  If you want to stay in the company till the end, that won't be your best choice...

I may be wrong, but honestly I feel that you are reluctant to sign the paper of transferring your shares because you want to avoid that this will end our contact.  I think that this is your worry now.  As said, I may be wrong, but this what I think and expected, although the paper is what you always demanded and that I promised.

Neither of this will change our relation.  Whatever you do, I remain thankful for what you did.  It will not change my gratitude in both ways.
I don't change my mind so quickly.  But it's a pity it has to take a silly path just now that we are ready.

About trust... you have all my mails.  I am not in contact with many as I felt this gave me rest.  I have a phone number I hardly use, mostly for Albert.  And the reason I don't give it to you or to anyone, is that I don't want again so many phone calls or missed phone calls the way it used to be.

Once that we can move on, being back on track, paid off the debts, stabilizing our lives, and being in normal contact, I will have no issue with a phone number.  Nothing to do with trust, but I am happy that the phone isn't ringing the way it rang in my previous times.

that's it.  you may accept or not, but I show you no hypocrite attitude my side.  It wouldn't be good if I called you as soon as I needed something.
As said, when I call, it's to discuss about the weather.  The rest of the matters must be done as grown up people knowing what is at sake and why we are doing it.  I am surveying that everything you do is safe and ends in a positive note soon.

And I don't really mind what people are telling you.  I am immune to gossiping and people's opinion.  No statue has ever been erected for talkers.  I am a doer.  That's what counts.

A

  







From: alinkap@mail.ru
To: hatikvah1@hotmail.com
Subject: Re[8]: AH
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:16:46 +0400

Alain,

I don't understand -
I have to trust you with signing things I don"t understand and you don"t even trust me with your phone number and address?
Or as I asked you to meet with me and talk?

you promised things which you never kept


so why would I do it?

QUOTE FOR TODAY


“Bread of deceit is sweet to a man; but afterwards his mouth shall be filled with gravel.”

A QUOTE FROM RABBI NACHMAN

"There is nothing so whole as a broken heart".

Rabbi Nachman of Breslav.

A QUOTE FROM THE TORAH TEACHER

"There is nothing so whole as a broken heart".

Rabbi Nachman of Breslav.

MR NEVER GIVE BACK LYING - NO PROBLEM, YOU WILL HAVE IT TODAY




MR NEVER GIVE BACK: I KNOW WHAT YOU DID AND DO FOR ME

Alain Horoit:

Hey alina,
yes I got the message but but my mail don't work here except facebook. Tell me what you want? Either I sent it either I bring it along. I will come to frankfurt either this weekend either the week after depending what i still must do here


June 1, 2010
Alain Horoit
alina, i know what you did and do for me. this is beyond discussion. but don´t do this to yourself by torturing you every day by asking questions and willing answers about relationship. i´m not into that now. first comes first, first i need to get back on track.

MR NEVER GIVE UP: "The REST WILL BE 200 BLANCO PAGES - It will be a BIBLE"


November 8, 2011
Alain Horoit
will act as if I am working a bit
i have to prepare my book and my national radio show next month
also a hatikvah book will come out


November 8, 2011
Alina Polyak
OK, you must tell me all about it


November 8, 2011
Alain Horoit
and i will write a book what men know about women
that book will be released next month
perhaps in two weeks
depends on the print company


November 8, 2011
Alina Polyak
Never give Up book?


November 8, 2011
Alain Horoit
Sure. My signature will be the only thing you'll be able to read. The rest will be 200 blanco pages...


November 8, 2011
Alina Polyak
this is modern art
great idea - interaction of writer and reader


November 8, 2011
Alain Horoit
NGU book in about 3 months. It will be a bible
I was born in 1969. All the years before i call it BA... (before Alain)

MISTER NEVER GIVE UP DESCRIBING HIS WAITER CAREER


HE DOES NOT WANT ME TO CONTACT HIS ROOMMATE WHO GAVE ME INFORMATION ABOUT HIM - COPY OF FACEBOOK CONVERSATION


Alain Horoit
Alina. if anyone asking you questions about me to you, it means that they are not in contact with me. It also means thats omething is hiding behind these questions. You are not obliged to questions which isn't their concern.

I will see Stefanie end this week.

No, Alina, I will not get played by NAME DELETED . She is cunning I will not let her feel that she decides what needs to be paid or not. At that time and still today, it is money, and I am not throwing with it.


November 7, 2011
Alain Horoit
Alina, forget NAME DELETED . There won't be a meeting with her. If you are curious and you can't resist to everyone who has to tell you something, then you must do that. But I am a bit less naive and less curious to people I know don't want any good.


November 7, 2011
Alina Polyak
of course it is between you and her - it was just my thought. It is not about being played by her, more about being above such things - then the person feels ashamed I think,
there were times when even Nadine was asking me about you - and you cannot tell me she does not want you any good


November 7, 2011
Alain Horoit
she feels no shame. I know her, lived with her for 11 months. She thinks only about herself and thinks full of herself when it regards trying smarter than others
good to compare nadine with NAME DELETED


November 7, 2011
Alina Polyak
no - but it is what happens when you don't speak to me
I do not compare but how should I know who is your friend and who is not


November 7, 2011
Alain Horoit
i don't need to speak to trust you that you take business and private information as confidential


November 7, 2011
Alina Polyak
you lived with her, so was she that bad?


November 7, 2011
Alain Horoit
why ared you making such a story about her? Did she become that important for you to be preoccupied about her?


November 7, 2011
Alina Polyak
I am not making a story at all


November 7, 2011
Alain Horoit
I know her better. If you will know someone else I don't know, I will consider your opinion about that person


November 7, 2011
Alina Polyak
if someone asks are in touch with him it is not a confidential information


November 7, 2011
Alain Horoit
The thing is I don't UNDERESTIMATE her. Normally I should, but I don't. If she made the efforts to contact you it is because she is planning something
she asks about money issues, did she? That's a bit more confidential
If I feel that she or Albert are working together, I still have the key to stop this whole business. Why ranging on her side? Wills he pay you any cent? So when I am advising you about a person who can plan something against me here, better just do as I say.


November 7, 2011
Alina Polyak
but how come you lived with her then?
or you understood too late she was a bad person?


November 7, 2011
Alain Horoit
I was so happy to leave. In the end I only used my bedroom. In the end she didn't have any respect for me as I lost my business while there were some shmucks there with somee money, you can't believe it


November 7, 2011
Alina Polyak
so hang out with people who treat you same no matter what you have or don"t have
I am not taking sides
and I am sorry you had to go through bad times
I went through them with and because of you
why did not you leave to your parents? was it unbearable for you?


November 7, 2011
Alain Horoit
alina, you aren't in the business anymore, but i count on your confidentiality, that's it. You can speak with everyone you want, i just advise you. But I have the responsibility to pay you. So if anyone wants to put a spoke in the wheels, you should take side.


November 7, 2011
Alina Polyak
I won"t be in the business when the payment is through
why are you so eager to have me out?
I am not talking to her
but how can I hate a person I do not even know
and why are you going crazy over her?


November 7, 2011
Alain Horoit
if i would have gone to my parents, i wouldn't have improved or look to improve myself and of course I would have found work as a waiter upon which I would stayed that way. Once that you decide to go back to work and give up on your dreams, it's over. I think so far I have proved to have taken the right decision
November 7, 2011
Alina Polyak
but why waiter, this is ridiculous, you would have found a better job than that
by the way a good waiter is rare too
it is not shameful to work


November 7, 2011
Alain Horoit
why i am a bit upset about her? She crossed the line by contacting you. She knows that you were in that business and that's why she contacted you. Do you think she contacted nadine or serge? Of course not. It's your information that she wants
i found a job as a waiter in the beginning of my career and i stayed there for 5 yearsOnce in, you don't get out. And with all my debts that I had i wouldn't have any chance to grow. It's not about being ashame to
 work, it's about knowing what your value is
i need to go now


November 7, 2011
Alina Polyak
I think she wanted to know if you owe me money and she expected me to say he is bad did not give back


November 7, 2011
Alain Horoit
one more time. don't be curious. there's no good that comes from NAME DELETED